Aurora, the ancient goddess of a new dawn, a radiant emission from the atmosphere, a web browser, the name of many a restaurants, a city in central Codorado, the city of brotherly love, a new spine company? That's right fellow bloggers, recently the spine world gave birth to another atmospheric emission of luminous bands caused by charged solar particles. It's truly amazing what happens when you create a hole through the ozone layer. By the looks of things Carlsbad may be the next Silicon Valley, n'est ce pas? After reading about Aurora and listening to some of our readers comments in private emails to TSB one can only marvel at this compilation of spine retreads, you know the slang definition of a retread is someone or something representing older times, especially when they are deemed passé. Yet, TSB must admit that if you are going to start another venture, why not Carlsbad? The beach is nearby, the golf courses are lush and neatly manicured and if all else fails at least you got a taste of paradise. At this juncture in spine, TSB believes that everyone should be given the opportunity to start a company based on a mission statement that includes being pro-active, would we all love to meet the people that invested in this Trojan Horse, more in the computing sense the the mythological.
Sixteen to Seventeen products, new biologics on the horizon, who knows the sky is the limit. Yet, upon carefully reviewing these products, in lumbar alone there were 12 products that had no pictures, and had not yet been approved by the FDA. WTF? In addition the word "volt" was used so many times that TSB started to believe we were going to get a menu link to one of Bryan or Michael Voltaggio's restaurants. So TSB has to ask our readers, is this what they are teaching in business graduate schools across America? The internet is a wonderful conduit, but it makes you wonder how shallow have we truly become? Forget about the readers, how about the investors? SUCKERS! "Does this company have any actual products available?" How does one recruit distributors without product? We didn't see any products named "Stealth" on their website. Louis Armstrong use to sing about seeing skies of blue and clouds of white, bright blessed days and dark sacred nights, and you think to yourself, what a wonderful world. And then, you wake up and all of a sudden you're living in Neil Young's head singing,
"My, my, hey, hey, the crazy world of spine is here to stay,
it's better to burn out than to fade away, my, my, hey, hey
Rust Never Sleeps!
1st!!
ReplyDeleteStryker strikes again only it's worse this time! Their latest batch of victims, the Cervicore victims, were injured even more grievously than the hip implant victims and there was even more criminality involved. CerviCore is an artificial disk implant meant for implantation into the cervical spine. Not only is it a metal shedding Frankenstein design like the Stryker hip implants, the Cervicore disk never received FDA approval for use in patients. It gets worse, the Cervicore disk never even received FDA approval to be used in clinical trials or IDE (Investigational Device Exemption). The Cervicore disk is such a piece of shit that it could not even get and IDE from the FDA but that didn't stop Stryker's doctors from implanting them in the spine of patients.
DeleteCurrently the is a class action lawsuit being filed against Stryker Medical.
file:///C:/Users/Chris/Downloads/File%20Stamped%20Copy%20of%20Complaint.pdf
On Friday April 11, 2014 the law firm of Zoll, Kranz & Borgess, LLC filed a lawsuit behalf of a group of fourteen plaintiffs against Howmedica Osteonics Corp. (which does business as Stryker Spine) alleging Howmedica’s trial device called called CerviCore injured them.
Stryker Howmedica Facing Class Action Law Suit
No product pics on the website, but the skeleton pics are pretty damn cool!
ReplyDeleteAurora Spine Announce Their Partnership with Axxcess Health Care Group
ReplyDeleteCarlsbad, CA, December 07, 2012 --(PR.com)-- Aurora Spine is pleased to announce they are partnering with Axxcess Health Care Group to complete their initial capital raise. Axxcess is a key, strategic funding partner working to bring highly “disruptive technology” from Aurora Spine to the medical industry. Created to provide high quality investment opportunities to high net worth investors, Axxcess has over 60 years of industry experience, and has successfully launched numerous companies over the past five years. “Together, we believe Aurora and Axxcess will bring much needed innovation to the spinal implant market,” said Ken Gross, CFO of Aurora Spine.
Axxcess Capital Healthcare Group financing will be used to fuel Aurora’s pre-launch phase and fund multiple innovative technologies currently under development. The company's product development team has produced unparalleled technology for fusion, minimally invasive surgery, and biomaterials. "Aurora Spine is an exciting company with a unique vision for the future of spinal devices. Its experienced executive team has the industry ‘know how’ to execute that vision today. We are excited about the opportunity to work together," said Tim Snodgrass, President of Axxcess.
Aurora Spine specializes in minimally-invasive (MIS), regenerative technologies. Our mission is to be the leader in advanced spinal innovations which will have a positive impact on lives worldwide.
Aurora claims to be hiring engineers to develop these products. It looks to me that they don't have a product or even a design concept.
DeleteMIS? Already been done but there is still a lot more money in open surgery where the real money is made on the comeback. Regenerative medicine? Read this. http://www.regenexx.com/about-regenexx/doctor-christopher-j-centeno-md/
There are many levels of delusion but how much coke does it take for a person to believe lies when they are the ones telling them?
Check out Aurora's website. They are looking for investors and they don't seem to even have a product.
They're on Facebook, they have to be legit!?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/AuroraSpine
OMG a positive impact on live world wide, could the song we are the world be in the works to play in the background of that website, LMAO
ReplyDeleteCool!! When you click on one of their imaginary products, the website even shows you where it will be implanted. Who do I give my $ to?
ReplyDeleteI like that all of management met at Kmart to get their wonderful profile pictures with a great shade of purple.
ReplyDeleteWhose sales meeting has been cancelled????????
ReplyDeleteNot mine. Go sell something & deliver your number, maybe then you'd have a meeting somewhere.
DeleteI've already seen their Volt cages, and it's a complete knockoff of Spineart's load sharing cages. The CEO Trent DID come from Spineart, so go figure. He also came from Alphatec, and not only is Aurora close to AlphaWreck, but the building looks identical too.
ReplyDeleteThis guy reminds me of Edward Norton's character in the Italian Job... no creativity.
9:03 that's an awesome analogy, is Clara Peller on the BOD, where's the beef?
ReplyDeleteDo people really still work in the industry full time? Corporate dildo idiots collecting a pay check. Trent? Really. I mean seriously come on move the hell on. Everyone go home and look yourselves in the mirror and say out loud..."I'm a puppet, well paid for now, dildo and love doing TPC reports for my corporate dildo manager who never succeeded at sales. What a bunch of losers each and every one of you guys and gals are. Actually he gals are mostly whores so keep on swallowing. Oh wait the UBS are too. Keep washing our surgeons boat and hanging with your 50 year old wing man at the clubs all night while your wives are sucking us studs off! NERDS!
ReplyDelete...huh? That made as much sense as, well nevermind. Clearly seeing the effects of legalized marijuana. God help us.
Deletewadda ya kiddin' we love reefer some of you dildo's should smoke it.
ReplyDeleteZimmer Spine. I thought they were relegated to washing the Zimmer jets? Who knew they had a device to recall? 5 years running of declining sales. How does this division survive? nobody will buy it? not even Lanx or Alphatec? anyone not look at a Zimmer Spine business card or resume (they are everywhere) and not think "Loser"? Equally unimpressive is their lineup of AVPs or "how much business can you bring?" parrotts. I even hear in some areas of the South they have partnered with Biomet and Stryker Hip/Knee reps to move their antiques errrr I mean "novel" technologies. GREAT strategy Dvorak! What a morale builder!!
ReplyDeleteUniversal Clamps are cool
DeleteHow is Lanx going to buy anything??? Another 15 million in VC money to shore them up, furter diluted "stock options" Pretty boy Steve D. has them all fooled, just a puppet for Dan G. Keep running it into the ground boys. Screw the working people, while lining YOUR pockets, right?
DeleteIts like they took all the crooks of the industry and put them in one company... All the worst from Alphatec to Blackstone.
ReplyDeleteLooks like they embalmed Linovitz in that picture, the real slim shady
ReplyDeleteAnything with a Blackstone connections smells foul. If it looks like s**t, smells like s**t, it must be s**t. Just what the industry needs another company bringing in another pedicle s crew, cervical plate and interbody with expectations that some large company is going to buy them. Wake up dreamers the train left the station a long time ago. As for the investors, as TSB wrote SUCKERS!
ReplyDeleteHeard that the VP lady from Ulrich is part of this.
ReplyDeleteOnly if Hans is the new pres and he hires her...again
DeleteNothrcutt and Johnston clipping salary coupons at the expense of some poor investor chump. Oh well, caveat emptor.
ReplyDeleteMSM said: "Forget about the readers, how about the investors? SUCKERS! "Does this company have any actual products available?" How does one recruit distributors without product? We didn't see any products named "Stealth" on their website."
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I watched an interview with hockey great Phil Esposito. He was asked why there was so much fighting in hockey. Phil Esposito is a very intelligent man so the interviewer was expecting a deep and insightful answer but because Phil Esposito is a very intelligent man he answered very simply and said ," because it's allowed".
If there were stiff penalties for fighting in hockey there wouldn't be fighting in hockey.
When it comes to the medical industry, fraud is it acceptable if fighting is in hockey.
Funny- Phil Esposito was just being interviewed on tv and he turned to the camera, pointed his finger and very intelligently and simply said:
Delete""Smelly Baldez" don't know what they talkin' about."
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/14/hulk-hogan-sues-laser-spine-institue-back-lawsuit/#ixzz2HyhZ1iOv
ReplyDeleteNot sure why all the bad press, but Trent Northcutt is a great leader. Look what happen to Lanx after he left, Lanx was like a ship adrift at sea after he was gone.
ReplyDeleteI love the lack of acknowledgment for correlation versus causation here.
DeleteLanx is obviously lost no matter who passes through...
DeleteLanx no thanx
DeleteMike Fulton made Lanx, & Mike Fulton ruined Lanx. Bottom line. Mickey Mouse could have been there in the beginning, & done what Trent did
DeleteWhen is Spinal Elements going public?
ReplyDeleteLack of comments besides BB and FB shows just how dead this blog is. TSB has completely lost it. But it's deserved since the likes of FB and BB were allowed to high jack the blog. One almost wonders if TSB is BB and FB.
ReplyDeleteThings that make you go hmmmm.
Someone tell me who would be better to work for..LDR or LANX and why..
ReplyDeleteBetter off in construction!
DeleteTrue. Lanx has terrible conditions. LDR seems to be OK, but they really only have one thing to sell (stand alones). Life Spine has terrible conditions, and I haven't heard good things about their products. I think this device tax is going to make the industry tough until Obama is impeached or finally out of office.
DeleteTSB is one of the busiest blogspot blogs.
DeleteSpineblogger has a page rank of 2 which is really good for a blog.
Here is Spine Blogger Alexa rank. http://www.alexa.com/search?q=the+spine+blogger&r=home_home&p=bigtop
Spine Blogger is higher than most other spine sites that are professional sites.
I post links to this site on all the spine forum and health forums in order to raise patient awareness of the scams surgeons and spine companies are perpetrating on the public.
Based on the number of comments on spine blogger I would estimate that this site is getting in excess of 10,000 page views per day. Based on my experience, very few people take the time to leave a comment on a blog. Only TSB knows for sure how many pages this blog receives. Spine blogger is all over Google so obviously MSM knows something about search engine optimization.
DeleteI will be adding spine blogger to any search engine the currently could not have it. I have referred this site to a lot of other people within and outside of the industry. I would urge everyone to have who cares about right and wrong to make your representatives in Congress aware of the site so that they can get a full appreciation of the criminal and unethical activity that is rampant in the medical device industry.
Really, Bally?. Are you slow stroking TSB or just tugging?
DeleteYou three have become the synonymous 3 peas in a pod.
Go to work for Lanx if you would like to work for a company that has been stagnant for 4 years, & is up to their eyeballs in VC debt, & has a group of greedy, clueless, senior VP's. Go to work for Lifespine if you want to work for another "me too" company that is just copying everybody else, & losing lawsuits along the way. Go to work for LDR....oh wait a minute, this is spine!!! All of these companies are the same!!!!LMFAO!!!!
DeleteHulk Hogan
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-14/hulk-hogan-wrestles-with-laser-spine-center-in-lawsuit.html
Depuy canceled their NSM but decide to have a "leadership" meeting with all the inept management. They are getting together and talk about how great they are along with multiple circle jerk contests'. Thanks for passing along the Obama tax onto the field too! That's the new JnJ. I'm out
ReplyDeleteJust to give you the facts, we just opened the doors in May 2012, and just received our ISO 13485 Certification in December 2012 . We will post products on our web just prior to launch in this case we are launching the ZIP MIS Interspinous Fusion System in Q2(as for our pipeline why show what we are doing...business 101) We appreciate the article TSB...keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteNo such thing as bad publicity, good job Brent! A bunch of service reps throwing stones at entrepreneurs.
DeleteHow do you plan on paying your surgeons? Do you have a more creative way than the envelope in the x-ray bag trick?
DeleteA Blackstone favorite ;-)
As a CEO, you should NOT have time to be reading spine blogs. If I were one of your investors I'd be slapping myself in the face right now.
DeleteThe management team pics are hilarious.
DeleteWant to buy a Kia? Ha ha! I need a shower just looking at this group.
Not sure if you guys have a health club in the office but it might be nice to invest in a treadmill. Just sayin'.
Tom G! Tom G! Is that you again? Just take your medication, that is your expertise, not spine...
DeleteLooks like they are fleecing investors the way the Chinese do.
DeleteBrent, if this is really you I bet that the Discovery Channel will be offering you a show to replace Amish Mafia. Spinal Mafia?
Brent and Trent,
DeleteYou are douche bags that will fail in any venture you touch. Distributors beware: DO NOT let these morons get in front of your surgeons and pull the old "you need to support our entire product portfolio" bullshit. Nice self-promotion on LinkedIn btw. It only makes you look even more amateur than you are. I will laugh when your shitty start up becomes insolvent in a few short years. The only game you will change is how to con investors and make selling spine implants sleezier
I know Trent. With lots of effort, he created more jobs throughout his carrier, fed more families and made more money to investors then you "haters" all together. Now he's the CEO. You are jealous...That's what it is!
DeleteTrent created nothing. He rode on the backs of smarter people and claimed their accomplishments as his own. For example, "I took Alphatec Spine public" is complete bull shit. He may have picked up John Foster's dogs steamy turds, but that is about it. It didn't take long for Healthpoint to see he was incompetent and demote him several times. I know.....I was there.
DeleteI can't figure out the purpose of this article...I am wasting my time again on this blog...
ReplyDeleteSoon as you fools realize this is a Medtronic operated blog, you can all sleep at night!
ReplyDeleteHey what did J&J do with old tricky ricky from synthes? There's a man that needs to get a good ass whippin'
ReplyDeleteHey Brent...Awesome to hear about Aurora this way..LOL. I've always enjoyed working with you, I will get a hold of you to discuss distribution.
ReplyDeleteI've known Trent for a long time and have seen the bashing all the way. Don't assume I am blind to what you are seeing but he is onto something.
ReplyDeleteI've seen their main technology and can tell you it's a game changer. One of those- why the f*k didn't I think of that?!
Trent had the balls to be a true entrepreneur and go after this putting a lot on the line. I hope he shuts all the haters up. You gotta respect someone to go for it. Admit it- you all salivate at the opportunity to make your own million, dream of forming your own company but 99% will never do it from fear and lack of knowledge for how to do it.
I hope he succeeds and so should you, cause 90% of you are pissed off reps, haters. Aurora will have the last laugh. You see it and realize its genius.
Well said, Trent.
DeleteEmbarrassing. More money down the tube.
DeleteHey Trent, have you met Bally or El yet? You'll love them.
What a joke!
Delete"Trent" is not risking any of his money. SEC anyone?
11:14- I am not Trent.
DeleteBally, since when is it a requirement to risk your own money to be an employee of a company? You are truly a pathetic douche!
DeleteSmelly Balldez gets owned, runs away and hides for a while under other aliases like Smelly El, or posts anonymously.
DeleteSmelly Balldez is a pathetic loser who only attacks others trying to bolster a very weak self-image.
Rejected and scorned and scarred. Look at who Smelly Balldez attacks to see who rejected Smelly Balldez. The medical profession, reps, fat people, and straights. Sad.
Get a life. But somewhere else, please.
"I am not Trent." Trent has actually said that many times. It is usually not true.
DeleteI am Spartacus!
Setting up phony companies and duping investors in other countries is common practice these days. It's called private equity and venture capitalism.
DeleteAdd to the "Smelly Baldez" list of those many groups who once rejected "Smelly Baldez" and now are the object of sour scornfull "Smelly Baldez" criticisms:
DeletePrivate Equity and Venture Capitalists
What ? - lose that Equity job interview once 'cuz despite all your efforts the usual loud rank smelly one ripped out past your cheeks?
I like that some people are actually creating something new.I like those creative minds. I hope the "Trent & Folks" are not just another pedicle screw company.
ReplyDeleteGenius? It's a spine product, genius is a cure for all cancers
ReplyDeleteTSB, Are you sleeping at the wheel? No comments regarding Dr. Cappuccino's lawsuit against Nuvasive?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/world-renowned-orthopedic-surgeon-sues-medical-device-company-for-breach-of-contract-187183211.html
Someone fetch the popcorn.
DeleteNice article about Cappucino, but reallly no surprise that Nuvasive is holding off on paying him. He hosed Nuvasive by jumping ship to go to Lanx, & pimp lateral. he can't be hurting for the money, since Lanx gave him a lot of money to come on board, & even let him bring his hot "assistant" along with him. No doubt the guy is brilliant, but also extremely incicative of what's wrong with the industry. The very greedy few sucking everything that they can off of the top, before the house of cards collapses
DeleteHe's king dirt bag in the city of dirt bag doctors.
DeleteRecently paid the annual $229 Reptrax shake-down. Have to find a new insurance policy, too, but don't want to hand over more of my money to those pricks. Does someone have a contact who can write me a policy for less than $2,000? Would MUCH appreciate it, thanks...
ReplyDeleteISO Certified
ReplyDeleteAurora Spine Becomes ISO certified by the British Standards Institute.
Carlsbad CA- December 19th, 2012- This is an exciting time at Aurora Spine as they successfully completed the ISO stage 1 & 2 audits in November, and are now ISO certified by the British Standards Institute (BSI). The ISO 13485 standard “Medical Devices — Quality Management Systems — Requirements for Regulatory Purposes” provides the base model for a medical device company’s quality system; it also complies with the European Union medical device directives for CE marking, Health Canada CMDCAS, and other international requirements. ISO 13485 is based on the ISO 9001 quality system process approach model for customer input, feedback, and communication.
“Compliance represents a commitment on our behalf to take our company far beyond the organizational standards of our competitors and to surpass our partner’s expectations for a quality organization. This certification represents a major achievement and milestone for Aurora Spine. The successful completion assists us in moving forward with regulatory registrations,” said Trent Northcutt, the Company’s Chief Executive Officer.
Gaining an ISO 13485 certification will enable Aurora Spine to conduct business internationally in the highly-regulated sectors of the European Union, Canada, and other countries. “Whether the Company is expanding locally within the United States to accommodate new business ventures or operating internationally, ISO 13485 certification will not only make Aurora Spine stand out in the medical device industry, but will demonstrate to their customers that they are fully committed to quality.” said Mike Thompson, Aurora Spine’s Director of Regulatory Affairs and Quality Assurance.
Aurora Spine specializes in minimally-invasive (MIS), regenerative technologies. Our mission is to be the leader in advanced spinal innovations which will have a positive impact on lives worldwide.
They just don't give those away, it took us over a year to get ours. Aurora may have a little more meat on the bone than what is being said!
DeleteBig whoop. 13485 and FDA QSR are pretty much the same nowadays. Its the standard now for any real company making implants.
ReplyDeleteThis is type of press release a company puts out when there is no real news. Are they also going to release that they passed the fire code inspection or perhaps they signed an office lease? Lame...
I think that is what 2:07 was trying to say "real" spine company, the ISO 13485 is voluntary the FDA QSR is mandatory. So if they got their ISO that means they are going to go international...interesting!
DeleteIf they really just formed the company in May 2012 and got the ISO cert by now that is pretty darn good...Just sayin'...
DeleteI am the "I am not Trent" person: I agree. The press release was forced and irrelevant, same as a fire inspection. Similar to the products on the website that don't appear to exist. But again I tell you this- the new technology is going to shut some of you up when it's released. It's a "have your cake and eat it too" for ISP devices. For you high school GED sales reps, you will understand later.
ReplyDeleteNo money down! No interest for a full year!
DeleteBuy a Kia at Aurora Kia today!!
Trent and Brent what a happy pair
ReplyDeleteThey're at it again in CA's clean Noth County Air
Faces have aged and bodies worn
Have wrecked their families and past companies scorned
Just sit back, relax, enjoy a sip of bourbon & cigar
While the on line adjunct professor blows Trent in his car
Your colors are so Nuva even Virgin Airlines
But I think you're company will belly up and you'll be forced to consume pork rines
Credit to you to boldly go where no spine company has gone before
Or have we been there done that as you banged our back doors
What commisions will you give? 30, 40, 50 points
Same old game you've played before
No thanks, I've grown up
My reps & I don't need you no more
Wow...nice poem! How long did that take you? When you start talking about someone's family you should at least be man enough to sign your name to it and not hide behind "Anonymous"...coward!
DeleteI know Trent. With lots of effort, he created more jobs throughout his carrier, fed more families and made more money to investors then you "haters" all together. Now he's the CEO. You are jealous...That's what it is!
DeleteI know Trent too. You left out "banged more women" He is the epitome of a scumbag salesman. Right Trent?? (aka 12:01 pm)
DeleteLet's be clear on this. He banged a lot of disgusting pigs, all well over 200lbs.
DeleteWhen will the next "Game Changer/Differentiator/World Reknown/Largest/Leading Industry Innovator" implant going to-"Drop"?
ReplyDeleteTrent Northcutt is now following:
ReplyDeleteAxxcess Capital
"Axxcess the Platform" Our Services include: -Product and Brand Development - Sales and Marketing Strategy and Execution -Wholesaling Representation -Investor Services -Dealer/Manager Services Our Products include both Public and...
Greater San Diego Area, 1-10 Employees
Zimmer Spine is leaving Austin...when will Zimmer leave Spine?
ReplyDeleteZimmer is on the move!
DeleteAurora is a bunch of Phygen rejects. Watching that group devour lunch must be like watching a pack of Hyenas eat an antelope. I give it two years before they are all kicked out of the company they started.
ReplyDeleteI heard that Aurora poached some engineer from Plan B skateboards and they are working on a hoverboard AND have a semi-functional prototype. Apparently it puts that piece of shit from back to the future to shame. Anyone else heard about this?
ReplyDeleteI heard a story about how they named the company.
ReplyDeleteApparently they were lying on the beach spitballing ideas of what to name their newest con.....company. They though Alphatex, Fanx, when they suddenly noticed glowing lights around their giant bellies. Apparently their fat guts have a magnetic field similar to that of the earth. Their gunts were creating An aurora borealis of sorts! From that day forward they were going to name the company Aurora...........as soon as they figured out how to spell it.
3:51 I am a Trent and Brent fan but that is too funny. Some other funny posts are the Alphatec and Lanx guys hurling insults at anyone. I am glad to see the humor come back to the blog after the holidays.
ReplyDeleteIf you are a Trent and Brent fan you have to be either Trent or Brent.
ReplyDeletehahahah! that is some funny shit right there!
Delete2 absolute clowns with resumes that get worse at every stop.
I mean seriously...what surgeons out there can look at those buffoons and then say "yeah, I can buy from them".
You are very welcome! If you are interested in additional information there is another site called ratemypoo.com. GREAT information, similar format to this site.
ReplyDeleteTurd is right, that site has butt loads of info that is good and helpful to the people. I will wait for neurosurgery in India's next post.
ReplyDeleteWith love,
Hingle McKringle
I just checked out ratemypoo.com, what a great and informative site!
ReplyDeleteI just saw the Aurora Spine management team photo on ratemypoo.com.
ReplyDeleteThose pics of the Aurora Management team on ratemypoo.com are much better than the ones on the Aurora web site. Much more flattering. Makes them look thinner and less full of ... well, you know what I mean.
DeleteHere's a thought. Is there any reason for why reps can not work as a manufacturer's rep and represent several different companies?
ReplyDeleteYou create a good line card with various screws and glue and other hardware and equipment. You work strictly on commission. You can have orders for large items drop shipped. You can broker deals for high ticket items like CAT scan machines and C arm imaging and used equipment. Basically, you can become a one-stop shop. Spine is already a whore's market So why not turn into a true whores market?
If all you really have are screws, glue and plates you really don't have much but if you could offer to the surgeon all or most of the tools of the trade he would be more likely to deal with you exclusively.
If you want to corner the screw market have Chinese copies of them made and sell them on your website. That way you are not limited to a territory. Think of it as a Walmart model.
If you're working in a hospital that has control over surgeonsit will be more difficult for them to demand kickbacks if you are the manufacturers rep. If you have products in your line that are clearly superior to the competition in both price and quality the surgeons will be forced to go with what's best and they may be forced to sever their kickback deals. Basically you could extort and it would all be perfectly legal.
By being able to select your product line you will not be forced to sell products that you know are crap. If you're up against a crap product and have proof that it's a crap product you can make the surgeon aware of that. If he still goes with the crap product he's putting his butt on the line when something goes wrong when he knew that there were better and safer alternatives.
If you still feel the need to offer a bribe, there are ways to do it to keep you above the fray.
Some of you guys know how big the pie is and you know with some certainty how big it may grow or shrink in the coming years. You also know how big your slice can be. The truth of the matter is most of you will always be at the mercy of a company that cares about as much about you as they do the patients. You'll never be in a position of power and if the chicken chokers who run your company screw up or sellout you will be screwed. If you work for a screw company and some sort of innovation comes along that makes screws obsolete you will be screwed.
Diversify!
If you salesman gave a crap about the industry and the patients it is supposed to serve you would drop the politeness of social graces when you're dealing with a dirty Dr. or practice. If you can offer them something that you know is better than to competition and they still blow you off you can call them crook and you can let them know that it is not in their best long-term interest to continue being a crook. If you did this now you'd be fired. Don't be afraid to beat up on these guys little bit.
If you're dealing with an ethical practice they will be happy to deal with someone who is giving them the honest information about the products. Won't it be nice not to have to bullshit clients and actually get paid a decent wage?
Here's a thought, why don't you stop talking shit from your mud hut in Uzbekistan and spend more time on ratemypoo.com?
DeleteBally, would you be willing to come in a speak with our management team? I really think you are on to something and can help steer the company in the right directin?
DeleteBall less is a coward and will never step out from behind the computer. In another time we would have put her on small raft and sent her out to see.
DeleteBoy I miss the old days.
Sea.
DeleteIt's just "Smelly Baldez" - stinking up the place again like a killer rank fart everyone in the room runs from!
Delete"Smelly Baldez" has been rejected by the medical industry, reps, straights, and even fatties, that much is clear. Suffering from such low self-esteem poor "Smelly Baldez" has been wearing out keypads, trolling tirades against them in revenge, ever since.
"Smelly Baldez" (aka "Smelly El" aka "Smelly Fat Bastard"), may I helpfully suggest "Beano" ? and surely there must be other groups that have rejected you and are worthy of your attention... I bet hundreds...why not concentrate on them and leave this blog ?
Good luck with all that....
Since there's been an increase in the housing market Home Depot and Lowe's are hiring. You are dying industry sells a lot of the same things found in Lowes and Home Depot. . They sell saws and drills and so did you guys. They sell screws and plates and goo and so you guys. The problem may be that the drills, saws, screws, plates and goo may be a lot more sophisticated than what you were used to when you are employed in the spine industry. You probably will have a tough time getting hired but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Most of you are probably too fat and out of shape to work in the lumber or cement department and many of you might be too dimwitted to count change at the checkout counter the McDonald's is always hiring and that people love McDonald's so keep repeating this question, would you like fries with that, would you like fries with that would you like fries with that?
DeleteAs to self-esteem, self-esteem is a myth because it is dependent upon conditions. When the idiots who run your industry create a better business model they will see that a catalog can sell screws goo better than dimwitted salesman. When you find out that there really is not much else you can do in sales or any other field you are so-called self-esteem will reach an all-time low. Don't go snorting that eightball all at one time because you will be on unemployment. You'd be better off switching to crack because you get a lot more bang for the buck.
Coward and elitist. Berkeley trained and breed. Another loud mouth non producer.
DeleteAnonymousJanuary 22, 2013 at 5:55 AM
DeleteCoward and elitist. Berkeley trained and breed. Another loud mouth non producer.
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Learn how to spell. Now run along and snort some oxy and tune into Rush Limpballs.
Dear Bally,
ReplyDeleteIt is truly horrible how those within this forum bash you. Brent and I would much appreciate you contacting us to discuss representing us in sales. We need hotties like you, eager, unafraid, & willing to swallow all we can give you.
Trent
I wonder how what creeps who run the spine industry would do if they had a compete in an industry or business wasn't just handed to them and it was real competition.
DeleteBrent and Trent, I know two guys who could advise you very well and their names are Tweedledee and Tweedledum. I think that they are involved in venture capital. They can teach you the fine art of employee exploitation, bribes, kickbacks and insider-trading. I believe that their protégés of Mitt Romney.
Bally I couldn't agree with you more. Your insight and intellect leads me to believe that you have definitely, at some point, hired a male companion to drop massive steamers on your forehead while you watch golden girl reruns. You should subscribe to ratemypoo.com and post pictures of this. Great stuff!
DeleteBally,
ReplyDeleteThat is fine, we like Romney. Back to you, we want you so bad we'll install the newest largest spa size toilets for your fat ass. Approved by the NFAA.
Trent
Lot's of unpatriotic trash like Mitt Romney. Hey, maybe the spine industry should hook up with Mittens and he can show you all how to defraud medicare for billions like he did when he headed Damon Corp. Then he took out massive loans on it, gutted it and sold it to Corning.
DeleteThen again Romney could learn something from the spine industry such as hire a web designer and pretend you have products, and fleece investors. To make the company legal buy some screws and say that your products are still under development. Then find some suckers to buy your phony company with the help of Kevin Trudeau.
Take your Ambien peasants so that you can sleep at night and forget that you work in an industry rife with corruption and fraud.
MSM said... "Louis Armstrong use to sing about seeing skies of blue and clouds of white, bright blessed days and dark sacred nights, and you think to yourself, what a wonderful world. And then, you wake up and all of a sudden you're living in Neil Young's head singing,
ReplyDelete"My, my, hey, hey, the crazy world of spine is here to stay,
it's better to burn out than to fade away, my, my, hey, hey
Rust Never Sleeps!"
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I see screws so loose, goo so white patients in pain all day and night and I think to myself... what a wonderful world.
Unsuspecting patients .....deal with surgeons oh so sly
Get improper treatment for their greedy lies.
I see crooks shaking hands.....sayin.. how do you do
They're really sayin......who can we screw?
You're an asshole!
DeleteYou are sooooooooooo original. That's the problem with you screw salesmen, you can't think outside the box and that is why you will always be screw salesmen. That is why the janitor who sweeps the corporate board room is more valuable than a screw peddler.
DeleteHey MSM, you have a decent flair for writing. Maybe you should write a book called The Confessions of a Screw Peddler.
Brent Johnston is truly the under belly of our industry. I have been a personal witness to his lying and dishonesty. No one should enter into any business dealing with him...be warned.
ReplyDelete2:31, ranting on somebody anonymously is cowardly. What was the lying and dishonesty about? I always had a great experience with him. I bet that you are unable to come up with anything, "Anonymous". That guy fought in Iraq for 4 years and got recruited straight from the army by the drug enforcement agency. 2:31, you disgraceful nobody, have you put your life on the line for anyone before? or just yapping...behind a triple BigMac?
DeleteIf you love him so much, state your name, or you must be Trent
Delete9:15 PM Good for your great experience with him (bet Trent watched huh?)
DeleteHave I put my life on the line for anyone before? Yes, DOD 9 years and that's all can say.
Just do me a favor. Verify, verify, verify his stories.
9:15, I have no problem with posting anonymously on this board, like 99.9% of the posts are done here. But slamming someone as cowardly for posting anonymously and then signing your post "anonymous" is so stupid it would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Take 4:34's advice as stated in the last line of his post.
Delete"That guy fought in Iraq for 4 years "...umm...lets see...The "Persian Gulf War" last 100 hours with 6 months buildup. Unless Brent was secretly advising Saddam for a few years, not sure how he spent 4 in Iraq?
DeleteBally, it is amazing that you get such good WiFi signal from the bar at the Manhole in the middle of the day. It's even more impressive that you can piece together such eloquent dialogue while felching a 300 pound tranny with a 5 o'clock shadow. Well done!
ReplyDeleteBally you are not adding anything positive to this discussion. If we are so bad please tell us what industry is good? Where do the serious salesman go. The real ones that you admire and aspire to be.
ReplyDeleteI am curious.
Bally is just a liberal chick with hairy armpits from Berkeley. She probably weighs 400 lbs and hasn't seen the sun in months. You should just ignore her completely. She is 100% irrelevant, is not and has never been involved in Spine. She is an unemployed blogger. Period. Ignore her.
ReplyDeleteTSB won't do the right thing and ban her. Guess he likes that she has ruined the blog. I remember when he took a stand against the potty mouthed few over the summer. Guess her liberal slants are more in line with his ideals. Or maybe he is just banging her? Bleh.
DeleteSaying Bally ruined this blog is like saying Ted Bundy ruined Attica.
DeleteDoes the Ulrich lady run the show at Aurora now?
ReplyDeleteCan we please stop talking about stupid Bally and his crap and get back to real spine industry news
ReplyDeleteTiger Woods is -3 today!
ReplyDeleteI just saw Trent walking the course with Ricky Fowler, he is +2 today. Ricky is wearing Purple pants, money well spent by Aurora!
ReplyDeleteLaser Spine Institute has a tent set up on the 4th hole, stop in for a quick decompression, and back on the course!
ReplyDeleteAnonymousJanuary 23, 2013 at 3:16 AM Said.
ReplyDeleteBally you are not adding anything positive to this discussion. If we are so bad please tell us what industry is good? Where do the serious salesman go. The real ones that you admire and aspire to be.
I am curious.
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What positive things can be said about the spine industry?
A monkey can sell screws and a smart monkey can attatch them into bone.
bi-curious?
DeleteTiger is -4, Trent is still walking the North course. Probably has a hospitality tent getting ready to Rock!
ReplyDelete-5 under
ReplyDeleteBally and Hillary Clinton are the same person!
ReplyDeleteShit
no that was Brent....
DeleteHey everybody, come on out to Torrey Pines today, big purple tent party today!
ReplyDeleteTiger is back -10, thanks T/B for getting him back in shape.
ReplyDeleteThis is astounding. A level of unprofessionalism displayed by the salesman here on this blog is a reflection of the criminal industry they represent.
ReplyDeleteIt's no surprise because the industry for the most part is made up of bottom feeders so it would follow that the people hired to sell the pathetic products would also be bottom feeders.
LOL. you're such a troll, and obviously the same person over and over again. You're either completely mentally unstable, or very bored and lonely. Either way, I feel sorry for your plight, having found yourself in such a bad position in your life. However, I'm glad you can find some meaning and enjoyment in your otherwise lonely existence on our behalf. Trust me, the good reps out there take no offense to your insults, because they're without merit 90% of the time. You seem to have struck a chord with the jackass crowd out there though, and have destroyed this blog. I hope you've been able to crack a few smiles, and maybe even let out a laugh on our behalf. I'm glad that we could give your life some meaning for a short time, I hope you eventually find yourself and pull yourself out of this pathetic existence you've seemed to fall into.
DeleteNo such thing as a good spine rep, or any other medical device rep, & you know that. Just a bunch of worthless parasites with no particular skill other than b.s., & ass kissing. Salesmen are classic examples of our new " service based " economy. So keep hiding behind your worthless 2 or 4 year degree, & suck it off of the top while you can. Keep beating up manufacturers to make pedical screws for $20.00 each while you sell them for up to $800 at the o.r. level. The insurance companies are on to you, & it won't last much longer. Then what are you going to do, get a landscaping job? TOO LATE!! The illegal immigrants have that field all sewn up.
DeleteIt looks like Proud FA hit a nerve. I love it!
DeleteBally, let's be honest, it's the big fat shits that are bleeding the healthcare system dry. It is a very rare occasion to see a physically fit person undergoing a fusion procedure. 95% of the people on the table are overweight. If people lived healthier and maintained a lower weight fusions and joint replacements would be cut in half. The responsibility falls to the person allowing themselves to be cut open.
DeleteAnd guess what......the fatter you are the more stress and wear you put on implants. This causes more failures and premature wear issue. If we approved shock absorbing artificial discs in the US we would have fat shits wearing them out twice as fast and suing. The solution is to put less food down your big fat mouth.
BS! This is not true for the C spine.
DeleteThe Freedom L, DCI and M-6 will outlast a real disk.
The metal on metal implants wear out in everyone.
The industry is responsible for the failures both legally and morally. They are the experts and they have superior knowledge.
If a lawsuit has no merit a lawyer won't take it and the judge with throw it out. When these bastards get sued they and lose none of the criminals responsible lose a penny. The costs get passed on to the consumer/patient. Only a slime would blame the patients for lousy surgeons and crappy hardware.
Again, there are implants more durable than the real thing.
Really? What about the scumbag attorneys that put the makers of silicon breast implants out of business? Guess what......it was complete bullshit and silicon is back on the market! Because of the scum lawyers I was forced to feel bags of water instead of the more natural feeling silicon. This is the biggest travesty in medical history.
DeleteNow blame the lawyers and scream for tort reform. LOL! If cases did not have legal merit the judge would throw them out and lawyers will not take cases that they will lose.
DeleteMaybe the spine industry could grow a spine? HA HA HA
This blog is dead for lack of meaningful and consistent topics posted by MSM.
ReplyDeleteLooking for expandable lumbar cage that is approved for stand alone use. Anything out there besides that VariLift?
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DeleteIf it's not out already, it will be soon.....Lanx has the best expandable cage ever!!!! Bigger game changer than Aspen!
DeleteHere's what I see happening to this dreadful part of the dreadful medical industry. Investors are going to wise up and a lot of the lawbreakers will end up where they belong....in jail.
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ReplyDeleteTSB seriously? Where are you?
ReplyDeleteYou allow these pathetic trolls to hijack your blog? There are only a few and can easily be managed but you have apparently given up. There is no redeeming value left.
By allowing the basement dwelling mouth breathers to run unchecked you have pushed aside anyone who would contribute positively.
You created this blog. You own the behavior.
I saw the Zip implant on Aurora's FB page and I hope that is not the final version. I am an engineer and see a MAJOR design flaw in the implant. Trent is not someone who should be designing/stealing implant ideas.
ReplyDeleteAnonymousJanuary 28, 2013 at 9:23 AM Said:
Delete"I saw the Zip implant on Aurora's FB page and I hope that is not the final version. I am an engineer and see a MAJOR design flaw in the implant. Trent is not someone who should be designing/stealing implant ideas."
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One would think that it device that's intended to be implanted into a human body would be designed and engineered by people much smarter than the average person but in truth many of these devices are actually designed by a committee of chimpanzees.
No other industry makes products with such a high catastrophic failure rate as a medical industry. Any industry that thinks it's okay to put metal on metal joint implants into a human being is beyond stupid and reckless.
We've had the technology and materials to create much better implants for 40 years.
In the 1950s some surgeons were actually implanting Lucite devices between vertebrae with a high rate of success. When I look at some of these devices I cannot believe that in the 21st century we are still implanting these Tinker toys into human beings. It is absolutely barbaric.
This goes to much bigger problem and that is the monetization of human health and the shameful exploitation of disease and human suffering.
Members of this industry come to this blog and whine like little babies to the blog owner and beg for censorship. This goes to the character of the people who dominate this industry. Luckily, the clock is ticking on this industry.
Great to hear from the tin hat society.
DeleteWow...it doesn't get any more blatant than this...
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Whore much?
DeleteIve got 50 bucks and a nice Timex, how many shares can get?
DeleteI have a used dick sock, a VHS copy of Purple Rain, and 50 milligrams of vicodin. I'll take 10,000 shares.
DeleteWhat idiot would invest 100,000k in this dog shit company. If their products were so good they wouldn't have to form a POD. This is proof that these shit companies cannot survive in this market.
DeleteI have a bunch of Stevie Wonders pubes, and Barbara Walters last used tampon before she entered menopause I am willing to trade for some SF or Aurora stock.
Deletehttp://auroraspine.us/careers.html
ReplyDeleteAurora does not even have a product. They claim to be looking for an engineer. They have a tumblr blog HA HA HA HA HA
Anyone heard about a certain surgeon in the Tallahassee area that attached a Ken doll to the hospital's Powerease drill, crushed his cornhole for a while and got busted by an RN and suspended from hospital?
ReplyDeleteNo, but if he's reinstated give him a raise! If he's not returned to work, let's all band together hiring him to do just that to Bally, Fat Bastard, and E!!!
Delete1:36 - Good eye.
ReplyDeleteNote: Spinal USA/Precision Spine LLC (of WSJ fame)has 2 open positions as well - Manufacturing Engineer and QA Manager.
Perhaps the public/Hospital GPOs/OIG/FDA/ could benefit from the FDA's MAUDE reports regarding the quality of their screws, etc. Does anyone truly believe POD's are in the patient's best interest?
It now makes perfect sense that Zimmer Spine is currently looking to fill a position in that region.
http://www.spinalusa.com/careers.html
Reinventing the screw?
DeleteHere's a thought. Engineers are licensed professionals. They can lose their licenses for knowingling designing crap.
DeleteQuite interesting article.Thank you for sharing.
ReplyDeletehttp://superioreducationz.com
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I got started because of Trent. Thought he was always honest and up front with me. I think the majority of people here are just upset no one offered them the CEO job. The main power houses of the spine field are no better than any other start up.
ReplyDeleteYou've got to love a Neil Young reference! But you're right, a healthy skepticism of everything online is necessary these days. There are so many bogus companies and scams that you can never be too careful.
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